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Jon was a better pick for head archivist (the profession not the godhood) than Sasha according to me, a Jon apologist/Sasha stan with a masters degree in information science

1) a disaster pit of an archive like Gertrude's requires a work horse like s1 Jon, not someone easily lost in the weeds like Sasha. For a body of information that huge, with subject matter that broad (even just 15 fear subjects is broad when you consider the overlap and highly subjective, contrasting nature of the statements), you want to create as little work for yourself as possible until you've built a foundation. Ergo, in this early stage you want a project manager who has the ability to burn through busy work, resists distractions, and remains open to his team's input for future endeavors while keeping them on track.

I also have a hc that a disorganized archive bolstered the Eye's hold rather than undermined it because that meant that only Eye-aligned people had the ability to navigate it. So in a normal case, I'd assume they could just call up one of their sister archives and borrow their database or taxonomy, because why reinvent the wheel, but here I suspect that messy records were an industry standard designed to lure in people with a craving for tidy answers. It's possible that no-one at any location had successfully organized their statements, or at least not before getting indoctrinated with some mark or another and abandoning the task.

2) Referring to statements by their dates isn't a bad idea when first tackling a project this unclear. When you create a spreadsheet map of your body of information (literally just a giant inventory list), I was taught to also provide an ID column to designate each collection item with a uniformed shorthand for easy, clear communication and notes. Think dewey decimal. It can be something simple as sequential numbers or dates. Why use dates and not statement giver names? Confidentiality is likely a behind the scenes factor in statement acquisition. Some of the statements are anonymous. Some names double. And the series demonstrates that statement givers rarely visit twice in one day, much less twice a week or month, and even if there are, they can tack a .1 on the end or something. This shorthand ID key will likely change no matter what once they familiarize themselves with the content enough to build a more thoughtful catalogue. So since that makes this a placeholder anyway, dates as a good-enough-lets-keep-moving ID would be my pick, too, ESPECIALLY because of point #3

3) the catalogue is nonexistent in s1, so the most pressing task is to create a taxonomy. Remember, a catalogue is a giant inventory list, a taxonomy is a predetermined, uniformed list of words to be used as metadata, which is like tags. We need taxonomies because a computer will think that The Eye =/= Beholding, so we build catalogues that only allow people to utilize one synonym to avoid inconsistencies. Building a taxonomy would be atypically difficult in the magnus archives, considering how unrelated or overlapping or contradicting all the statements are to someone not in the Know. Trying to pin down a vocabulary on day one will only create more work because it'll almost definitely need massive revisions. That's why it makes sense for someone to closely read several random statements with post-follow-up clarification in order to analyze the subject matter and slowly define a work-in-progress metadata. If they have a chance to kill two birds with one stone by making a recording? Go for it. I would not commit this task to EVERY STATEMENT EVER, but rather to a handful at first to help chisel out that high priority taxonomy, which is what one statement per week amounts to. Which leads me to point 4:

4) Jon's attitude toward s1 Martin was uncalled for and unprofessional, but Jon's frustration makes sense. Martin's existence on that team was likely justified to Jon by his fake masters in parascience, which makes Martin the technical subject matter expert. He's presumed the only one qualified to determine that critically important taxonomy because it'll have to be consistent with vocabulary and classification systems already established in Martin's field of study so that visiting experts can easily navigate it. Martin 🙃 is none of these things 🙃. So from Jon's pov, his technical subject matter expert is either A) being deliberately obtuse by offering tea and conversations about jigsaw puzzles with old ladies instead of results, which adds work to his already enormously laborious project For Funsies I Guess??? or B) Martin did not retain his masters program/doesn't know how to apply his skills practically and therefore isn't actually qualified to help with the task at hand. Or? C) Martin got a bullshit degree, landed a job where he can't get fired (supernatural contracts aside, libraries are famous for job security) and is now half-assing assignments that Jon is on the hook for since he knows he can get away with it, because tbqh some coworkers are genuinely Like That. All of which means that Jon now has to cover their collective asses by overworking to compensate for Martin's perceived fallthrough and record/analyze the statements himself to protect his team and to avoid admitting he couldn't succeed with Elias' hand picked resources.

This is maybe the most frequent citation against Jon's management skills, but the only reason Sasha may have avoided the same trap is because she invaded Martin's privacy and learned about his lie. Which... doesn't really improve the situation, just creates new problems. And also takes us to #5:

5) Sasha, light of my life, did not have people skills that made her excel at managment just because she's charming and confident. The main reason: she's habitually invasive as a coworker and employee. Imagine the conflict that behavior would have shifted into if the power dynamics tilted, if she was in charge of the people she wanted information from (it's an excellent, rich source of conflict, tho, don't get me wrong.)

Jon stalked Tim for a few weeks, maybe a month or two, because he was scared for his life and this became the catalyst for their relationship deterioration. Comparatively, Sasha stalked Jon and Martin presumably their entire working relationship, or at least enough to at least learn Jon's real age/multiple password changes and Martin's fake CV secret, all for fun. Moving past s1, Jon accidentally compelled mundane secrets out of Melanie and Basira which resulted in swift retribution. How long do you think those two would have humored Sasha's active, remorseless boredom?

Also? If the only issue is people skills, then tbh if I was coordinating this employee transfer, I would say to myself "I've heard that Jon's occasionally difficult to work with, but his work style is suited for the task. I'll just let him pick his team to make sure he gets along with everyone. We need a subject matter expert tho, so I'll include that one guy in the library who's a cuddly people pleaser, that will help smooth over any clashing personalities."

6) oh? Jon deniers say this is a public facing job and he needs to be more lovely? Bitch, the public treats jobs like this as basically free, walk in therapy. I've had public facing jobs similar to Jon's. If you don't go in with firm, predetermined boundaries, you'll burn out immediately and become a doormat. If anything, s1 Jon is the perfect combination of "my job is to offer One Service, and if that is not the service you need then move along, I'm not being paid to suffer fools." mixed with "I've decided my One Service includes a willingness to listen in full and let you define your experiences for yourself in a time when the world is likely trying to dismiss your fear and tell you what you saw."

7) insofar as formal training goes, information science is the type of field where sometimes people are just absurdly suited for it because they already interact with the world with those skills. I have a coworker who basically gave a work training on Info Sci fundamentals for fun and when I tagged up with her after, she had no idea that was even a field. Jon and Sasha imo are among those types that click naturally with information science, so I personally do not fault them for not having a specialized degree. If anything, Jon might have recognized his natural inclination and applied for the job for that reason a la "might as well, the worst that can happen is I'm told no." Did they all still need some kind of formal training to properly manage an archive? Yes. Was their need for guidance JUST info sci related or did they much more desperately need real answers on malevolent eldritch forces obfuscated from them to prevent them from safely doing their jobs? Probably a combination, but leaning much more heavily toward the later. So imo, they weren't unqualified because they didn't have a grasp on info sci, they were unqualified because there was a 200yo contrived plan to keep them ignorant.

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I adore corruption arcs, so I graded how well the non-archivist characters would have damned humanity if they had been the archivist.

  • Sasha James 11/10, would be an ideal archivist, this plus her height is probably why the stranger monster targeted her before she could peak
  • I have a soft spot for any au that knows Sasha has never seen a brain cell in her life and that any unhinged!Sasha au is really just a regular Sasha au. Picture it with me. Sasha and Jon have parallel archivist tracks, until Sasha (my beloved show off) decides: you know what would make me more efficient at snooping? Becoming a Human Google. And things accelerate. The Web doesn't even need to bother with subtly magic lighters, it slaps all 14 marks on her at once by pulling up next to Sasha in a windowless van with "free secrets 👍" written on the side.
  • After the Unknowing, Sasha takes over the institute from Elias instead of Martin and Peter. With Tim dead, Jon in a coma, Martin lonely-snatched, Melanie compulsively homicidal, Daisy in the coffin, and Basira on autopilot, she quickly bonds with Rosie, the ultimate nosiness enabler. Sasha is a fully marked archivist for a good long while, but doesn't start the apocalypse right away because she's eager to read ALL the ominous notes Elias left, so the watcher's crown statement is in her to-be-read pile. When the apocalypse starts (Rosie: "Hey, Sasha, I just read something extra fucked up that Elias wrote, wanna see?" Sasha: "God yes."), she books it to become the pupil with Rosie as her anchor. Mayhapse an anchor-archivist polycule with Archivist Jon and Martin? Mayhapse Jon is just a normal eye avatar here and deeply invested in all of Sasha's eyepocalypse statements, so it's Sasha and her plus-three? Mayhapse it's a race across the eyepocalypse wasteland between Archivist Sasha and Archivist Jon to usurp Jonah and become the pupil?
  • Tim Stoker 2/10 dude's here for a good time, not a long time
  • Do All of Jon's Friends Subconsciously Hate Him, or Does He Just Need to Sleep? Both, it's both.

    At one point, Jon explained that during S2 he had just enough Eye powers to sense that someone around him (Not-Sasha) was duplicit, but not enough Eye powers to shape that into anything more tangible than just a bad feeling.

    I think this fledgling-power-by-entry-level-Eye-association might explain why the entire cast is pointedly more reasonable and forgiving of each other's flaws than Jon's. If he was marked and followed for the Web's mAcHiNaTiOnS as a child, then the archival assistant's low level Eye powers from research and statements might have had them develop a similar spidey sense (lol) warning that some sinister, manipulative, cause-to-effect force was orbiting Jon. Even if Jon himself was objectively causing at least as much/little harm as the assistants. After they all have at least a little bit of Eye exposure, that exposure combined with their trauma incentives turned into a cocktail of semi-legitimate-if-you-squint distrust toward Jon's motives.

    The exceptions being

    1) Sasha: she was lost too early for enough Eye exposure, but idk, maybe she was also one worm infestation away from squaring up, we don't get much of her POV on Jon.

    2) Martin: he's apparently naturally compatible with the web so sensing those powers in Jon might be less alarming or less effective on him. What's more, he thought spiders were cute, so maybe he did pick up on Jon's web vibes and took things in the opposite direction as everyone else lol

    Question- how well do you think the Monster Pig Or the Admiral would have done as the archivist?

    Extension of this post where I graded how well the non-archivist characters would have damned humanity if they had been the archivist.

  • Monster Pig 6/10, points awarded for initiating a pacific rim style apocalypse with himself as the kaiju, points deducted because he's a successful one pig union against the fear bosses and would literally eat the rich.
  • Idk if we ever got more meat on the bones re monster pig's entity influence but I interpreted him as a flesh/slaughter duel alignment. This avatar apparently walked off an ax chop but also "couldn't be bothered" to kick the lock off the barn door and help himself to some real havoc. Instead of seeking out brains to eat in cafés like Jon, he was content with letting havoc come to him instead and you know what? It worked? Like a black hole, the lack of fucks given created a vacuum which pullef both Gertrude and Jon to him.
  • He refused to terrorize any more than necessary. Fear bosses and their insatiable hunger be damned, Monster Pig will punch his time card every day at 4:30 p.m. and say "I'm done cannibalizing Toby the pig for today, see you at 8:00 a.m., Comrade Dylan Anderson." Antichrist point deduction for eating the cogs in TMA's capitalism metaphor
  • The marks would be a non-issue, he can apparently survive attacks ranging from stabbing to pennywise, the clown he ate. He has a ton of weird scars, so he may already be fully marked, which restores some points. But he still insists on doing it strictly within work hours, and will otherwise go on strike a la fucking off to a new farm and eating the competition.
  • I like the weight of Jon's "I don't want to end up just another mystery" compared to how he's MIA in the end, not because it went against what he said he wanted, but because when he said that he didn't really have anyone in his life at the time who would have been invested enough to go through that same Fear Bullshitery and learn, in full, what became of him.

    Now, wherever he is, even if some people don't know exactly what became of him, the person who matters most to him knows exactly how Jon's mystery ended.

    I'm confused about why people think Melanie and Sasha were on good terms just because Melanie asked to say goodbye to her before leaving for India considering 1) Sasha had all the same flaws that Melanie said she hated in Jon and 2) Melanie openly hated Jon but still sought him out three times.

    Melanie also apparently made Tim and Martin cry within her first month(ish) of magnus archive employment, so we're sleeping on the funniest reality of all: Melanie holding four seperate, ongoing nemesis relationships with Jon, Sasha, Tim, and Martin. She reaches one desk, stirs the pot, accuses them of gaslighting, moves on to the next work station, rinse and repeat.

    We can argue over the nuances of Jon's s5 character arc all we want but the single biggest problematic plot hole is the suggestion that Jon has not once thought to use his Sight to locate 2k20 lord and savior, the admiral

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